Home

Vault

Green
Room

Ed
Morrissey Show

Gunwalker goes to the Hoosier State

Share

Tweet

posted at 10:05 am on September 7, 2011 by Jazz Shaw
printer-friendly

Old and busted: Gunwalker
New hotness: Gangwalker?

At Pajamas Media, Bob Owens stays on on the trail of the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who, apparently in concert with the FBI, have
gotten the White House in some serious hot water. Having already explored the
disastrous experiment known as Operation Fast and Furious, we now learn that it
may have a
kissing cousin out in Indiana. From the Washington
Examiner:

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has acknowledged an
Indiana dealer’s cooperation in conducting straw purchases at the direction of
the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Exclusive documents
obtained by Gun Rights Examiner show the dealer cooperated with ATF by selling
guns to straw purchasers, and that bureau management later asserted these guns
were being traced to crimes.

It’s a long, detailed report with chilling similarities to the original
Gunwalker scandal. The federal government essentially provides cover for straw
purchasers to take delivery of weapons without interference from state or local
officials. The weapons then wind up at crime scenes, having been used for all
manner of mayhem. The difference in this case is that, rather than heading out
of the country to Mexican drug cartels, they go to American organized crime
gangs. Retaliation against a whistle-blower follows in short order.

Bob Owens sees a pattern in the government incompetence.

There was never any mechanism within Fast and Furious to intercept the
thousands of Gunwalker weapons once they left the gun shops, and the
multi-agency team (DOJ, ATF, FBI, DEA, IRS, DHS) acted as nothing more or less
than a shield to prevent straw purchasers and smugglers from being intercepted
by local or state law enforcement.

The apparent purpose of the operation was to lend the thinnest veneer of
truth to the 90-percent lie spread by Barack Obama, Eric Holder, and Hillary
Clinton from the very beginning of the Obama administration. It makes sense
only as a plot to manufacture evidence for the punitive gun control laws that
Obama has championed his entire political career. Indeed, even after Gunwalker
was exposed, the number of U.S. guns in Mexico, many of which were put there
by the actions of the government itself, was still brazenly used as the excuse
for ATF long gun reporting requirements currently being challenged in
courts.

Likewise, what Codrea has dubbed as “Gangwalker” appears to be another
attempt to provide guns to criminals in order to generate more gun crime and
then more calls for gun control.

The biggest difference between the two operations at this early date only
seems to be that Gangwalker is a purposeful attempt to create the deaths of
American citizens in order to pursue the administration’s fanatical anti-gun
agenda.

So was it just stunning stupidity and incompetence spread across multiple
offices of two different agencies, or is there some hidden agenda at work. I’ll
leave that speculation to the reader, but it’s certainly food for thought. The
real loser in all of this – after those killed or injured in the ensuing
criminal activity, of course – is the American gun owner and proponent of second
amendment rights. But by exposing these operations before we see new gun control
measures popping up in Congress we may be staunching the wound before it fully
breaks open.

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments
from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air
management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because
we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting
privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

ATF Death Watch 75: ATF-Enabled Indiana Guns Went to
Chicago Gangs (via The Truth About Guns) | My Blog

Gunwalker comes to Indiana?

The Morning Links (9/8) | From the Desk of Lady
Liberty

Comments

Well, Obama did say that he wanted a ‘civilian force’ as well armed,
funded, and trained as the US Military. Didn’t y’all believe him? Obama wants
his peeps to be ready when the white oppressor invades the ‘hood.

Skandia Recluse on September 7, 2011 at 10:10
AM

Just paving the way for ‘common sense’ gun grabs. Well done Uncle Sugar!

Limerick on September 7, 2011 at 10:11
AM

Gunwalker … the story we dare not mention on NPR or at the NY Times.

DJ Rick on September 7, 2011 at 10:11
AM

1 time and you can chalk it up to complete stupidity. More than that and you
have a pattern and there is always something behind said pattern especially with
the way that the DoJ is stonewalling everything

Doctor Zhivago on September 7, 2011 at 10:13
AM

Gunwalker.

Gunrunner.

Operation Fast and Furious.

Operation Castaway.

And now this operation…

“Once
is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”

If you can’t see enemy action in front of your face on this, then you are
blind.

ajacksonian on September 7, 2011 at 10:13
AM

So was it just stunning stupidity and incompetence spread across multiple
offices of two different agencies

Not

A

Chance

flyfisher on September 7, 2011 at 10:14
AM

http://www.kvoa.com/news/mexico-says-us-man-smuggled-grenade-parts/

Police have arrested an American man who
allegedly smuggled parts for as
many as 2,000 grenades into Mexico for drug cartels, more than a year after he
was released by U.S. agents who stopped him at the Arizona-Mexico border for
having more than a hundred grenade parts.

While a Department of Justice official said the case will be added to the
investigation of Operation Fast and Furious, a flawed effort by the Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to target gun trafficking networks
on the Mexican border, there is
a twist: in the Jean Batiste Kingery case,
the U.S. Attorney’s Office, not ATF, appeared to be responsible for letting
him walk.

But a lead prosecutor for the U.S. Attorney’s Office wasn’t interested in
pressing charges because he viewed the grenade parts as novelty items that
lacked jury appeal and instructed the ATF to let Kingery go, saying they could
always file an indictment later, according to a law enforcement official close
to the investigation
who was not authorized to be quoted by
name.

William Amos on September 7, 2011 at 10:15
AM

So now we know how “working under the radar” was accomplished.

SOMEONE needs to go to prison for this.

GarandFan on September 7, 2011 at 10:16
AM

Remember this whole scandal involves creating the circumstances in the
public’s “mind eye” to force Americans to be CONTROLLED by the UN Small Arms
Treaty … Thereby destroying the US Second Amendment.

tarpon on September 7, 2011 at 10:16
AM

I wonder how many of guns in the New York City shootings are from something
like this?

Kjeil on September 7, 2011 at 10:17
AM

Most ethical administration evah!

CJ on September 7, 2011 at 10:17
AM

One has to ask, are any of these guns now in the US and killing our citizens
by gangs? There must be a way to trace these guns if they are here.
L

letget on September 7, 2011 at 10:17
AM

I’ll leave that speculation to the reader, but it’s certainly food for
thought.

One of the big failings of the conservative pundits is that they are
unwilling or unable to connect the dots in the stories they present.

Or, worse, they may be afraid to, lest they upset some of their squishy
compatriots — no “bad optics,” please!

This is not “food for thought.” Rather, it is (or ought to be, if the
Blogging Class had any more guts than political hacks or the average
not-paying-attention citizen) food for indictments, arrests, trials and
imprisonments.

Some few commenters have been calling for Obama’s impeachment for more than
two years, as he has continually ignored the Constitution he swore to uphold and
committed acts that might well be felonies.

“In fairness” (as Ed will always say) no one has pinned the ATF or DoJ crimes
on the Traitor-in-Chief yet, but I ascribe that more to an unwillingness to
follow a pretty clear chain of command than an actual lack of evidence.

Because we don’t have the guts to hold President Historic First© to account
for his actions, our country is suffering more damage to its basic fabric
daily.

When will one of those granted a pretty effective pulpit actually take a
stand? I’m not happy with what I see as the answer.

MrScribbler on September 7, 2011 at 10:18
AM

I think he’s doing a fine job.

crr6 on August 10, 2011 at 6:15
PM.

rogerb on September 7, 2011 at 10:24
AM

Retaliation against a whistle-blower follows in short order.

Followed quickly thereafter by promotions for all the a$$wipes who gave the
okay to the idiotic scheme in the first place.

I just wonder how many people are ultimately going to be killed because the
U.S. government, under the moronic leadership of Barry Obama and his dim-witted
sidekick Eric Holder, decided to distribute high-power guns to vicious criminals
in order to “prove” the need for stricter gun control laws in the U.S.

What we really need are laws to prevent brain-dead liberal fools like Obama
and Holder from ever holding office in the first place.

AZCoyote on September 7, 2011 at 10:25
AM

Everyone, and I mean everyone in govt, that has their hands in this cookie
jar needs to be arrested, and prosecuted to the fullest extent, for accessory to
murder, and or assault!!!!!!!!

capejasmine on September 7, 2011 at 10:26
AM

Likewise, what Codrea has dubbed as “Gangwalker” appears to be another
attempt to provide guns to criminals in order to generate more gun crime and
then more calls for gun control.

Or, since President Obama still maintains that he wants a “domestic security
force as big, powerful and well-funded as our military”, he may simply be using
this operation to start arming it.

The old Anarchist Cookbook states that any political leader with
autocratic aspirations will organize- and arm- street gangs, because the “kids”
in them have energy, a basically “F*** the straights” attitude, and no
noticeable fear of death or bodily harm. Plus a strong desire to cause violence
and mayhem for its own sake.

The Cookbook goes on to say that the leader must not overload them
with dogma. They will naturally gravitate toward attacking the targets an
up-and-coming Maximum Leader type wants destroyed (the “bourgeoisie”, authority
figures other than himself, etc.), so all he really needs to do is arm them and
let them “do their thing”.

And then, of course, he can demand “emergency powers” to deal with the
resulting “crisis”, as per Bismarck’s dictum.

The biggest mistake people make about Obama and his minions is to assume that
their ineptitude at economics, and their Maharishi-level state of self-delusion
re the East, extends to a similar lack of competence regarding attaining their
desire for authoritarian “revolutionary” rule at home. Quite the contrary- due
to their long-standing infatuation with, and experience of, leftist
“revolutionary activity” going back to the Days of Rage in Chicago in 1968,
it’s probably the only thing they are actually more-or-less competent at
doing.

“Gangwalker” looks very much like a case in point.

clear ether

eon

eon on September 7, 2011 at 10:27
AM

The slaughter of our inner city youths and others being propelled by our own
gun hating administration that is supposed to protect us?

Herb on September 7, 2011 at 10:30
AM

Special prosecuter

*crickets chirping*

Unstinkingbelievable

cmsinaz on September 7, 2011 at 10:31
AM

“In fairness” (as Ed will always say) no one has pinned the ATF or DoJ
crimes on the Traitor-in-Chief yet, but I ascribe that more to an
unwillingness to follow a pretty clear chain of command than an actual lack of
evidence.

MrScribbler on September 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM

He signed the stimulus. The stimulus paid for this. That’s a smoking gun.

fossten on September 7, 2011 at 10:33
AM

The slaughter of our inner city youths and others being propelled by our
own gun hating administration that is supposed to protect us?

Herb on September 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Why does Barack Obama hate black people?

fossten on September 7, 2011 at 10:33
AM

clear ether

eon

eon on September 7, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Eon, good to see you back posting here. If this keeps up, even Kimball
Kinnison would have trouble.

NaCly dog on September 7, 2011 at 10:37
AM

I wish I could agree that it was “stunning stupidity and incompetence.”
Unfortunately it most likely was carefully planned and deliberate sabotage
perpetrated by sleazy Eric Holder and his delusions of social Just-us.

viking01 on September 7, 2011 at 10:38
AM

Likewise, what Codrea has dubbed as “Gangwalker” appears to be another
attempt to provide guns to criminals in order to generate more gun crime and
then more calls for gun control.

Let’s see. Create an artificial tragedy in order to call on the suppression
of human rights. Well, it worked with the Reichstag burning, didn’t it?

kurtzz3 on September 7, 2011 at 10:39
AM

Why does Barack Obama hate black people?

fossten on September 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM

I think he inherited that from his Grandma.

MikeA on September 7, 2011 at 10:39
AM

There was never any mechanism within Fast and Furious to intercept the
thousands of Gunwalker weapons once they left the gun shops, and the
multi-agency team (DOJ, ATF, FBI, DEA, IRS, DHS) acted as nothing more or less
than a shield to prevent straw purchasers and smugglers from being intercepted
by local or state law enforcement.

Guns don’t kill people. The federal government kills people.

If you’ve got the DOJ, IRS and DHS, all headed by different people, then it
goes beyond Holder. There is no way you get this level of multiple cabinet
status cooperation without the president being involved.

rbj on September 7, 2011 at 10:41
AM

The apparent purpose of the operation was to lend the thinnest veneer of
truth to the 90-percent lie spread by Barack Obama, Eric Holder, and Hillary
Clinton from the very beginning of the Obama administration.

In related news, the Washington Post Fact Checker has finally – belatedly –
awarded Obama the coveted Four Pinnocchios for some recent comments.

Obama’s claim of having passed the “biggest middle-class tax cut in
history” is ridiculous.

Drained Brain on September 7, 2011 at 10:43
AM

Ha. They could not get a gun control bill passed in this Congress – House OR
Senate – if they found naked pictures of all of them in bed with teenagers.

WTH were these idiots thinking? That’s what I would like to know. A sting
operation means you follow the buyers of the guns and then bust the people they
sell them to. That might have been useful.

rockmom on September 7, 2011 at 10:43
AM

This is clearly a plot by Obozo and Co. to create the atmosphere of lax gun
laws, and to create the “need” for more stringent gun laws. It’s also a clear
case of corruption.

It’s also very clearly a criminal violation of the public trust, as well as
some very serious firearms laws.

In addition to the resulting murders, both domestic and international, it’s
crystal clear that Obozo should be impeached and Eric Holder should go to jail.
It seems as though Hillary Clinton may have culpability as well, and quite
possibly should see jail time as well.

It doesn’t matter who you are in America, when it involves the murder of
American citizens, the people responsible MUST be held accountable.

KMC1 on September 7, 2011 at 10:43
AM

viking01 on September 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM

And who is Eric Holder’s boss?

Could it be someone who shares Holder’s racist, unconstitutional beliefs to
the extent that he is responsible for giving Holder the job and — at a minimum —
gives him “guidance” on policies and actions?

MrScribbler on September 7, 2011 at 10:44
AM

So was it just stunning stupidity and incompetence spread
across multiple offices of two different agencies, or is there some
hidden agenda at work.

That really does seem to be a common theme with the Downgrade Administration,
doesn’t it?

Chip on September 7, 2011 at 10:45
AM

Issa, we are counting on you.

DrStock on September 7, 2011 at 10:49
AM

It makes sense only as a plot to manufacture evidence for the punitive gun
control laws that Obama has championed his entire political career. Indeed,
even after Gunwalker was exposed, the number of U.S. guns in Mexico, many of
which were put there by the actions of the government itself, was still
brazenly used as the excuse for ATF long gun reporting requirements currently
being challenged in courts.

So was it just stunning stupidity and incompetence spread across multiple
offices of two different agencies, or is there some hidden agenda at work.
I’ll leave that speculation to the reader, but it’s certainly food for
thought.

EVERYONE from Obama on down should be held accountable for the deaths
resulting from this op…They were all accessories to murder by attempting to
influence 2nd amendment policy = EPIC FAIL

huskerdiva on September 7, 2011 at 10:52
AM

Ha. They could not get a gun control bill passed in this Congress – House
OR Senate – if they found naked pictures of all of them in bed with teenagers.

WTH were these idiots thinking? That’s what I would like to know. A sting
operation means you follow the buyers of the guns and then bust the people
they sell them to. That might have been useful.

rockmom on September 7, 2011 at 10:43 AM

You are right. This certainly wasn’t about law enforcement because they
chucked all known investigative techniques and they did not even tell their own
people on the ground in Mexico what they were doing. I don’t believe this was
just about gun control. It looks as if someone intended to destabilize at least
two countries, maybe more.

flyfisher on September 7, 2011 at 11:01
AM

From the article:

Gunwalker Explodes into the Heartland

If Gangwalker and Gunwalker are two sides of the same insidious coin, we’re
looking at the very definition of “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

We’re looking at impeachment for the most serious of charges, and possible
criminal prosecutions for a widespread conspiracy to commit murder that walks
right up to the line of the legal definition of treason:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them
or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United
States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall
be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not
less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the
United States.

Chip on September 7, 2011 at 11:06
AM

Gee, what state is Indiana next to? What state is calling for more gun
control for themselves and others? Hmmmmm.

Hard Right on September 7, 2011 at 11:06
AM

Creating gun-related crime, endangering innocent American lives, to improve
the chances of unconstitutional gun-control legislation succeeding. Sounds like
a primary function of government.

But by exposing these operations before we see new gun control measures
popping up in Congress we may be staunching the wound before
it fully breaks open.

Jazz, thought you’d want to know that the better verb-form word there is
stanch.

Freelancer on September 7, 2011 at 11:07
AM

Eon, good to see you back posting here. If this keeps up, even Kimball
Kinnison would have trouble.

NaCly dog on September 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Maybe, but Kit definitely has the jets to swing that load.

fossten on September 7, 2011 at 11:17
AM

stunning stupidity and incompetence

Nothing of this nature is not part of their plan. To assume incompetence is
their alibi – the oldest lawyer trick in the world -I didn’t realize, I don’t
recall, they were too zealous, it depends upon what the meaning of “set up” is,I
was playing golf at the time.
We have to get over assuming ionnocence with
this devious crowd. They are of the “any means to an end” “a crisis is too good
to waste” “bring a gun to a knife fight” I dedicate this book to Satan,I want a
civilian army equal to the military, Let’s take out the SOB’s, ilk.

People who argue to starve a fully born innocent baby to death are not nice
folks. We need to call black, black, white, white, and evil, evil, and stop
playing this “benefit of the doubt” default weapon of theirs!

It is time to make them prove it wasn’t intentional.

Don L on September 7, 2011 at 11:20
AM

Do the writers here never read the comments? The dots have been connected
repeatedly by several commenters, but the writers here just seem to be incapable
of wrapping their heads around the obvious inferences.

1) “Fast and Furious”, as designed. could never advance a
single prosecution. Never, not one.

The guns were allowed to “walk”> No one knew who had them after that, or
how they got them. The alleged targets (cartel gunrunners) were beyond the
BATFE’s jurisdiction in Mexico. (Not to mention the fact that the notion that
there is a huge drug cartel organization dedicated to moving US straw purchased
weapons across the border is a fantasy.)

(2) If the avowed purpose of the operation is impossible to
achieve in the first place, it isn’t just incompetence. There is a
different purpose, or purposes.

3) There are several similar programs, in Texas and Florida (and now
Indiana) as well as Arizona. All involve guns being delivered to the Sinaloa
cartel, or other enemies of Los Zetas, the Gulf Cartel enforcers
founded by ex-Mexican special forces, which has morphed into an independent
criminal organization, now at war with the Gulf Cartel and its allies, among
whom are the Sinaloas. Los Zetas are widely considered the most violent and most
dangerous of the Mexican criminal cartels. Los Zetas are of particular interest
to the US government, in part because of the prominence, and in part because
they are armed with US military grade weapons stolen from the Mexican armed
forces, and many of their core membership were trained by US government actors.
(Even the Indiana program may be linked to Los Zetas affiliates in the US.)

4) This op required the involvement of multiple agencies and
departments of the US government. most in Homeland Security and the
DOJ. (The link between the DOJ and HS is Dennis Burke, recently
resigned US Attorney in Phoenix who is the former chief of staff to Janet
Napolitano.) The involvement of this many actors requires that multiple
agendas were to be served. The involvement of more than one department of the
Federal government requires Presidential knowledge of the
operations.

5) Who wanted to arm the Sinaloas and other Los Zetas enemies?

6) Who wanted to advance a gun control agenda?

To answer those questions, you start with the actors who are
trying to suppress the truth.

novaculus on September 7, 2011 at 11:21
AM

Question #1: Were any of those guns involved in that IHOP shooting that
happened yesterday?

Question #2: It the answer to #1 is ‘yes’, would that be revealed?

kurtzz3 on September 7, 2011 at 11:39
AM

All the dots are connected – to treason and high crimes, if you have the
fortitude to say it.

Know whats a real smoking gun?

Many weapons allowed were automatic, high powered assault
rifles.
Ironically – Dems and this admin have chipped away at gun rights,
celebrating “high powered clip/semi/auto” laws – which are ridiculous, because
as any law officer will tell you – they account for an extremely low rate of
crime.

So not only did this courrupt admin specifically create Gunwalker to “make a
point about gun violence” – they went full bore batchit crazy and “tail wagged
their dog” through high powered automatic rifles, which has been their boogeyman
for years.

These treasonous, bumbling fools actually thought they could both pull off
Gunwalker, while increasing the amount of high powered rifles to justify their
insanity at the same time.

Blood is on their hands. Plastic cuffs next.

Odie1941 on September 7, 2011 at 11:41
AM

So was it just stunning stupidity and incompetence spread across multiple
offices of two different agencies, or is there some hidden agenda at
work.

Out here in law-abiding land we call it a third thing: Accessory and
Conspiracy. With three seperate instances, I think we also have a RICO
violation to consider.

These criminals in government supplied weapons to criminals knowing the
weapons would be used to shoot at and kill innocent Americans.

Whatever excuse the ringleaders at main Justice uses can get sorted out at
their trial.

Prosecute the bastards.

MTF on September 7, 2011 at 11:53
AM

As we quickly approach the 10-year anniversary of the WTC attacks of 9/11/01
at the hands of evil blood-thirsty terrorists… this whole ongoing and expanding
straw buyer/gunwalker fiasco delivering guns into the hands of the
worst-of-the-worst repugnant human beings as a means for gun control and
eventual gun outlawing is an unraveling federal multi-agency government
conspiracy that I can really sink my teeth into.

Abso friggin’ lutely.

FlatFoot on September 7, 2011 at 12:01
PM

Everyone, and I mean everyone in govt, that has their hands in this cookie
jar needs to be arrested, and prosecuted to the fullest extent, for accessory
to murder, and or assault!!!!!!!!

capejasmine on September 7, 2011 at 10:26 AM

What is really disappointing to me is the lack of whistle-blowers. Even in
Arizona, there were just a handful that came forward, and good on them, they are
heros.

I would like to think that among the ranks of our law enforcement people in
this country, that there are a majority, or at least a significant percentage,
that would put principle first and risk their careers by bringing this treachery
out into the open. I would like to think that, but right now I don’t.

iurockhead on September 7, 2011 at 12:09
PM

Isn’t it supremely curious that Obama doesn’t care about getting to the
bottom of this scandal?

You would think that charges this serious would cause him to leave
no stone unturned to find out who is responsible for this travesty and yet we
only have silence from the WH.

Why is that the case?

Chip on September 7, 2011 at 12:13
PM

Because we don’t have the guts to hold President Historic First© to account
for his actions, our country is suffering more damage to its basic fabric
daily.

When will one of those granted a pretty effective pulpit actually take
a stand? I’m not happy with what I see as the answer.

MrScribbler on September 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Well said. Bob Owens at PJM who has been following Gunwalker is a refreshing
read. The subheader under his headline is:

It’s time for the administration to come clean, under oath, and face the
consequences for its actions.

This is far, far worse than Watergate. That was breaking the law for a
political campaign. This is attacking the Constitution by setting up a situation
in which people will die.

INC on September 7, 2011 at 12:13
PM

I should add: and have died.

INC on September 7, 2011 at 12:14
PM

But by exposing these operations before we see new gun control measures
popping up in Congress we may be staunching the wound before it fully breaks
open.

Psshaw! What we have here are the grounds for impeachment, if not Obama
himself, of Holder at a bare minimum. If proven to be a deliberate endangerment
of the populace as a whole, I cannot fathom how this could be considered
anything less than wanton aiding and abetting in whatever violent crimes are
found to have been carried out with these weapons. Felonies that warrant 20-life
for each count. If proven to be motivated by ideological obsession in the
undermining of the constitution (2nd amendment), by those sworn to uphold it no
less, by definition we are looking at the grounds for charges of treason.

Treason, if I remember correctly, is a crime punishable by far more than just
termination of employment, but of life itself.

Archimedes on September 7, 2011 at 12:15
PM

Isn’t it supremely curious that Obama doesn’t care about getting to the
bottom of this scandal?

You would think that charges this serious would cause him to leave no stone
unturned to find out who is responsible for this travesty and yet we only have
silence from the WH.

Why is that the case?

Chip on September 7, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Yes, it is extremely curious..why no special investigator?

tinkerthinker on September 7, 2011 at 12:17
PM

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or
adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States
or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be
imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than
$10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United
States.

Chip on September 7, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Great minds think alike!

Archimedes on September 7, 2011 at 12:24
PM

Why is that the case?

Chip on September 7, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Because HE is GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER.
Nothing will happen to these
people in Gov. Look at what you are asking for, you are asking for Gov to
impeach for treason a fellow politician. Never gonna happen.

What will happen is you will not get your food rations unless you hand over
your guns.

I am finally glad to see some few people are also made as he11 as I am, but
to think something will really come of it…
14 months from now when every city
is burning, and firefights are running in the streets at all hours, this will be
the least of your worries.

Throw it on the pile with Waco and Ruby Ridge.

orbitalair on September 7, 2011 at 12:28
PM

Robin of Berkeley has an excellent column out. It’s not about Gunwalker, but
because she analyzes Obama and the mindset of the Left she nails the thinking
and manipulation that initiates moves such as Gunwalker and Gangwalker. Her
focus is on the thuggery of recent words and actions of the Left, but she
summarizes many things that have been said here in the comments:

The Cult of Obama

As soon as Obama came on the scene, the programming began. His face was
plastered everywhere, like Mao’s. In his speeches, Obama lulled audiences with
a melodious voice and feel-good phrases repeated over and over. And he began
inciting people with his charming smile.

First, the vultures starting swooping down on Hillary. Obama chose not to
call off the dogs.

Then thugs invaded caucuses. Again, silence.

Which led to vicious misogyny against Sarah Palin and threats on her life.
From Obama: not a peep.

We even saw armed thugs at polling places. Ignored and not prosecuted by
Obama’s attorney general.

The moment Obama became president, he upped the signals. At the Grant Park
rally celebrating his victory, the entire family eerily chose to wear black
and red, colors associated with communism and black nationalism. Obama’s first
radio address was broadcast in the Arab world.

Obama returned Britain’s gift of a Winston Churchill bust while embracing
dictators. He gave a white police officer a dressing down for doing his job,
in effect calling the officer a racist.

Obama’s greatest magic trick? Brainwashing the masses to believe that
racism is a greater danger than radical Islam, and that Obama himself is in
constant peril.

Opposing health care means you oppose Obama. Oppose Obama and you are the
enemy.

Thus, more and more people are finding themselves on the receiving end of a
fist, figuratively or literally….

INC on September 7, 2011 at 12:32
PM

Yes treason is punishable by death, but in our 230 some odd yrs no one was
ever hanged for treason.

As much as I’d like to pin that first to Obama as well, I seriously doubt I
could make that happen. I’d love to, but I still have a job, and have to work
for a living.

orbitalair on September 7, 2011 at 12:32
PM

Occam’s Razor says: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
explained by stupidity.” But, in this case, stupidity does not adequately
explain. I don’t see how this many government agencies could be organized into
this program without somebody, somewhere, saying: “Hey! Where’s the part of this
plan where we recover the weapons from the criminals?” You don’t get to be an
FBI special agent by being stupid, so somebody must have enforced stupidity on
them in order to purposely leave the guns in the hands of drug cartels and
violent gangs.

This whole thing stinks, and Issa is going to have to start issuing Contempt
of Congress citations and threatening prison time before anybody is going to
feel enough pressure to start talking. Eric Holder has corrupted the DOJ to the
point where we may never be able to get it cleaned out again. It is looking more
and more like the criminal gangs Fast and Furious set out to arm.

Socratease on September 7, 2011 at 12:34
PM

I intend to ask my governor (Daniels) where is the outrage at having business
owners in his state used this way. God help him if he knew what was going
on.

SKYFOX on September 7, 2011 at 12:39
PM

Fake Scandal.

Del Dolemonte on September 7, 2011 at 12:41
PM

Isn’t it supremely curious that Obama doesn’t care about getting
to the bottom of this scandal?
Chip on September 7, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Yes, it is extremely curious..why no special investigator?

tinkerthinker on September 7, 2011 at 12:17 PM

If he didn’t initiate this, why doesn’t he want to have it investigated?

Chip on September 7, 2011 at 12:41
PM

GUNWALKER:

Stupid: Yes

Evil: Extremely: causes injury and death of US
citizens.

Unconstitutional: Definitely: It is the antithesis
of “preserve, protect, and defend”.

landlines on September 7, 2011 at 12:54
PM

Jazz, I am unaware of any Profile in Timidity awards.

We are dying a death of a thousand politically correct cuts.

Stayright on September 7, 2011 at 12:58
PM

Hmmmm. Every State?

pat on September 7, 2011 at 1:12
PM

When will one of those granted a pretty effective pulpit actually take a
stand? I’m not happy with what I see as the answer.
MrScribbler on
September 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM

I know: howsabout if we let HA continue to present articles for our
edification and amusement in the style to which we have become accustomed, and
we comment on them as we see fit?

Sound like a winner?

Akzed on September 7, 2011 at 1:20
PM

So was it just stunning stupidity and incompetence spread across multiple
offices of two different agencies, or is there some hidden agenda at work.
I’ll leave that speculation to the reader.

Fast and Furious is simply evil. The media is full of evil people as well.
This should have exploded on the news pages 10x what the Valerie Plame scandal
did.

Using this program as a pretext for gun control also reminds me that liberals
will justify any means to get to their desired ends. We allow them to be elected
at our nation’s peril.

scotash on September 7, 2011 at 1:33
PM

Remember this whole scandal involves creating the circumstances in the
public’s “mind eye” to force Americans to be CONTROLLED by the UN Small Arms
Treaty … Thereby destroying the US Second Amendment.

tarpon on September 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM

This. And this:

This is not “food for thought.” Rather, it is (or ought to be, if the
Blogging Class had any more guts than political hacks or the average
not-paying-attention citizen) food for indictments, arrests, trials and
imprisonments.

MrScribbler on September 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM

petefrt on September 7, 2011 at 1:37
PM

Well, Obama did say that he wanted a ‘civilian force’ as well armed,
funded, and trained as the US Military. Didn’t y’all believe him? Obama wants
his peeps to be ready when the white oppressor invades the ‘hood.

Skandia Recluse on September 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM

This

clnurnberg on September 7, 2011 at 1:47
PM

Why does Barack Obama hate black people?

fossten on September 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM

He doesn’t hate them, he wants control over them. Your confusion is
understandable as the difference is small.
Buying them off with welfare and
other handouts only controls the lazy. The energetic must be controlled with
violence and gangs are always present and adaptable. If black gangs are not
sufficient, external ethnic ones will do. Only problem in US is lotsa peaceful
folk have the means to prevent physical coercion. Good on 2nd Amendment.

The 2nd Amendment turns the war against America into a multi-front war.
Economic, 1st Amendment and 2nd. All three must fall simultaneously. Smart
fellers our founders. It’s not enough to subvert one.

Caststeel on September 7, 2011 at 1:47
PM

“…stupidity does not adequately explain…”

Socratease on September 7, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Couldn’t agree more.

Think about it. We’re talking about a multi-agency,
multi-cabinet-level-department operation that intentionally armed violent
international criminal cartels in apparent violation of US law, Mexican law, and
international treaty provisions. They knew people would die. Who would
do all this just to promote a vastly unpopular anti-gun domestic agenda? Are
Obama, Holder and Napolitano and Lanny Breuer that stupid? Corrupt yes,
as smart as advertized no, but they aren’t that stupid. It doesn’t make any more
sense than the claim that letting guns “walk” somehow advanced legitimate law
enforcement goals.

The main goal has yet to be disclosed. It is entirely possible that
politicians seized on the opportunity to promote a pet policy objective, but all
these wheels weren’t set in motion and these monstrous risks taken just to
promote gun control agendas.

We haven’t got to the bottom yet, far from it. But Issa and Grassley are
doing a nice job, not overplaying their hands, and peeling it down one layer at
a time. Something this big is hard to keep under wraps forever.

novaculus on September 7, 2011 at 2:16
PM

How is this not bigger than Watergate and Iran-Contra? Why no talk of
impeachment?

tom on September 7, 2011 at 2:18
PM

I’ve long had a theory/principle that runs like this: The worse the idea, the
higher up the source.

As bad as this idea was, it had to come from the top. Any lower, and
somebody would have objected and said, “Better rethink this
one.”

tom on September 7, 2011 at 2:25
PM

tom on September 7, 2011 at 2:25 PM

+100

novaculus on September 7, 2011 at 2:29
PM

This is either incompetence or corruption at the highest levels, probably
both. Obama is making Jimmah Carter look like a genius.

volsense on September 7, 2011 at 4:17
PM

Here is my question: in the three states affected by this abomination, all
have Republican governors. So why aren’t they calling out the press? Why aren’t
they drawing attention to this? One is running for president for goodness
sake!

piglet on September 7, 2011 at 4:48
PM

How shall I say this?

It is my opinion that only a mind that could conceive of trying KSM in NYC
would be capable of coming up with something altogether so grandiose, so bereft
of sense, so pernicious, and so likely to cause incredible human damage as this
ongoing scandal.

perries on September 7, 2011 at 5:58
PM

You must be logged
in and have JavaScript enabled to post a comment.

Logged in as . Log
out »

Note: your comment may take up to 30 seconds to show up on the site
(longer, if it goes into moderation). Please do not resubmit.

Tina Korbe

Bachmann
weighs in on “monstrous lie”-like Social Security rhetoric

Tina Korbe

College
demands 9/11 tribute include flags from other countries — or face
cancellation

Allahpundit

AFL-CIO
chief’s 9/11 message: Let’s recapture the spirit of unity that these
thuggish wingnuts have destroyed

Tina Korbe

Video:
Palin: Obama, with his non-jobs plan, ‘plays us all for fools’

Allahpundit

Revealed:
Department of Energy officials sat in on Solyndra
meetings

Humberto Fontova

A
History Lesson for the…

Jack Bouroudjian

Young
Republican Redux

Tim Huelskamp

Something
That Should Never…

Paul Greenberg

The
GOP Field Expands --…

Rich Galen

The
Jobs Speech

GreenRoom

Westboro
Baptist Church in NYC to protest Fashion Week

NY
9th Dem’s ad against opponent showed airplane buzzing lower Manhattan

Liberal
media still a sucker for Obama’s empty rhetoric

New
liberal online game: “Tea Party Zombies Must Die”

Goods
and Others checklist for Rick Perry

Poll:
Obama’s approval among blacks plummets—to 84%

Beyond
the Obama-Hoffa kerfuffle

Rick
Perry’s BIG Win!

LIVE
BLOGGING: Perry v. Romney… and those other peeps.

Bloomberg:
Disinvites first responders from 9/11 remembrance

Hot Links

Right
Channels

2010
Election Results

Ace of Spades
HQ

Andrew Marcus

BigGovernment.com

Cubachi

Daily
Caller

Defining
Ideas

Doug Powers

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/

Evan Coyne
Maloney

Fausta's Blog

Gateway Pundit

La Shawn Barber’s
Corner

Le·gal
In·sur·rec·tion

Matt
Lewis

Michelle
Malkin

Newsbusters

NRA News

Patterico

Pundit &
Pundette

Real Clear
Politics

Ricochet

The Other McCain

The Shark Tank

The Sundries Shack

Tip Sheet
Blog

Townhall

Left
Channels

BloggingHeads TV

Evil Google
Current

War on
Terror

Blogging
the Qur’an

Counterterrorism
Blog

Flag911

Jihad Watch

Masih TV

MEMRI TV

Michael Yon

NEFA Foundation

Zombie

Audio
podcasters

Ashbrook
podcasts

Blogtalkradio

Instapundit

John
Derbyshire

Power
Line

Scrappleface

Shire Network
News

Cartoons/Satire

Conservative eCards

Day by Day

Doug TenNapel

Mallard
Fillmore

Political
Cartoons

Entertainment

Happy Slip

Industry/Internet
TV

Ed
Driscoll

Jim Treacher

Johnny Dollar

Olbermann Watch

Roger L.
Simon

Hangouts

Conservative
Grapevine

Drudge Report

Lucianne

Memeorandum

Talkers

Hugh
Hewitt

KFI – Los
Angeles

Kirby Wilbur

Lars Larson

Laura Ingraham

Mark Levin

Michael
Graham

Michael
Smerconish

Mike
Gallagher

Radio Vice
Online

Rush Limbaugh

Sean
Hannity

Tammy Bruce

Hot Air
Affiliates

Brian
Maloney

David Lunde

Investigative
Project

Jawa Report

Shire Network News

Suitably Flip

¡No
Pasarán!

Feeds

Subscribe in a reader

© 2006-2011 Hot Air | Designed by The
Blog Studio | Terms of Use | About | Advertise